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Unlock the secrets of the hatch in 'Lost' with us as we commemorate our 40th episode journeying through episode 17 of season 2, "Lockdown". Stephen Williams' directorial finesse shines as we unravel the high-stakes scenario Locke finds himself in and dissect the tantalizing food drop that follows. We engage with the love triangle that has fans on the edge of their seats and candidly critique the complexities of relationships both on and off the island, delving into the lives of Kate, Jack, and Sawyer with a fresh perspective.
The tension is palpable when discussing the enigmatic character of "Fenry", whose evolution from a mere plot element to a puppet master reveals layers of psychological warfare that will leave you questioning every motive. We scrutinize the influence of character dynamics and Locke's entanglement with honesty and deception. The poker game serves as a microcosm for the island's intricate power plays, providing an unexpected source of humour and insight into the characters we've grown to love – and question.
As we round out this episode, we share a heartfelt thank you to our listeners for embarking on this wild ride with us while eagerly looking ahead. With subtle nods to upcoming twists and the growth of iconic characters, we leave you primed for future episodes. Join the conversation and get lost in the intricate web of 'Lost' once again.
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00:00:11 --> 00:00:17 <v Kip>we're three best friends and we love lost and we love talking, but even more so we love talking about lost.
00:00:17 --> 00:00:22 <v Kip>So join us for some laughs, good conversation and let's get lost together.
00:00:25 --> 00:00:29 <v Amanda>Hello everybody and welcome to this week's episode of let's Get Lost.
00:00:29 --> 00:00:37 <v Amanda>I'm here with myself, amanda, as usual, and I'm joined by my very good friends and Lost buddies and podcast host Kip.
00:00:38 --> 00:00:38 <v Kip>Hello.
00:00:39 --> 00:00:45 <v Amanda>Teresa, hi, and if it sounds a little bit phoned in, it's because we forgot to hit record earlier.
00:00:45 --> 00:00:46 <v Amanda>Just kidding.
00:00:46 --> 00:00:48 <v Kip>Well, yeah, no, that's true here.
00:00:48 --> 00:00:50 <v Amanda>I'll just do a quick recap of it for everyone.
00:00:50 --> 00:00:52 <v Amanda>Kip's having a good week.
00:00:52 --> 00:00:54 <v Amanda>Trace is just okay.
00:00:54 --> 00:00:57 <v Amanda>This is our 40th episode, woohoo.
00:00:57 --> 00:01:00 <v Kip>Crazy 40 episodes in.
00:01:00 --> 00:01:02 <v Amanda>That's insane, and Kip, you did tell us that 50 would be in season three.
00:01:02 --> 00:01:03 <v Amanda>Yeah, because that's insane.
00:01:03 --> 00:01:14 <v Kip>and Kip, you did tell us that 50 would be in season 3 yeah, because we only have 7 episodes of season 2 left, so by the time we get to our 50th episode, we'll be into season 3, which is wild to think about that is actually insane.
00:01:14 --> 00:01:21 <v Amanda>And then we'll be halfway almost halfway through the series yeah, holy shit especially because the first couple of seasons or longer, yeah.
00:01:21 --> 00:01:37 <v Amanda>So the more seasons we get in, the less like time episode wise we have left I think season three is the last like of the 20, 20 ish, and I think four probably would have been as well if it wasn't for the writer's that's true, yeah and then I think five and six were always supposed to be kind of shorter, yeah, but uh, yeah, and I was.
00:01:38 --> 00:01:53 <v Amanda>I was just thinking about how it's always good, but it's getting to that point where this was the first episode Cause we watch them, obviously for the purposes of, you know, being able to provide you with a good, entertaining, cohesive podcast.
00:01:53 --> 00:02:02 <v Amanda>But we're still fans and so, for the most part, I put it on, I watch it, I turned it off but, man, after this week's episode, did I not want to turn?
00:02:02 --> 00:02:02 <v Theresa>it off.
00:02:02 --> 00:02:03 <v Theresa>Oh, amanda, just episode.
00:02:03 --> 00:02:03 <v Theresa>Did I not want to turn it?
00:02:03 --> 00:02:04 <v Theresa>Oh, amanda, just dug in.
00:02:04 --> 00:02:06 <v Amanda>I was like I'm not leaving you wanted to keep watching.
00:02:06 --> 00:02:07 <v Kip>I'm watching till the end.
00:02:07 --> 00:02:08 <v Kip>I had to turn it off.
00:02:08 --> 00:02:11 <v Kip>Oh yeah, it's so good that end.
00:02:12 --> 00:02:15 <v Theresa>I know like how is someone like and.
00:02:15 --> 00:02:28 <v Amanda>And then it always makes me just think about how I'm like freaking out that I can't watch it 10 minutes later and people had to wait a week, and sometimes with these like bigger cliff cliffhangers they did it at a time when they knew it was going to be a few weeks Exactly.
00:02:30 --> 00:02:31 <v Kip>It was a good one, a good cliffhanger.
00:02:32 --> 00:02:33 <v Amanda>Alright.
00:02:33 --> 00:02:37 <v Amanda>Well, Teresa, why don't you tell us what it's about before I ruin the whole thing for us by just talking about that ending?
00:02:38 --> 00:02:40 <v Theresa>Absolutely Alright.
00:02:40 --> 00:02:45 <v Theresa>So we're talking about episode 17 of season 2 and it's called Lockdown.
00:02:45 --> 00:02:50 <v Theresa>It's written by Carlton Cusin, Damon Lindelof and directed by Stephen Williams.
00:02:50 --> 00:02:53 <v Theresa>Stephen, stephen, stephen, stephen.
00:02:53 --> 00:03:00 <v Theresa>Anyway, when the hatch suddenly takes on a life of its own, locke is forced to enlist the help of an unlikely ally.
00:03:00 --> 00:03:05 <v Theresa>Meanwhile, ana Lucia, saeed and Charlie go off into the jungle to find out the truth about Henry.
00:03:06 --> 00:03:08 <v Amanda>Can I say something for a second Matt Talk amongst yourselves.
00:03:08 --> 00:03:10 <v Kip>They went to the jungle last episode?
00:03:10 --> 00:03:11 <v Kip>Yeah, they did.
00:03:11 --> 00:03:13 <v Kip>They're still in the jungle.
00:03:13 --> 00:03:14 <v Theresa>They're still there.
00:03:14 --> 00:03:19 <v Theresa>They trekked off last time and we're still.
00:03:19 --> 00:03:20 <v Kip>They're still there.
00:03:20 --> 00:03:20 <v Kip>What's happening?
00:03:21 --> 00:03:22 <v Amanda>I have a funny thing.
00:03:22 --> 00:03:25 <v Amanda>So I don't know about you guys, but I listened to our.
00:03:25 --> 00:03:27 <v Amanda>I mean, well, kip obviously listens to it too.
00:03:27 --> 00:03:29 <v Amanda>You don't think I listened to our podcast.
00:03:29 --> 00:03:33 <v Amanda>Well, I don't know what you do, but I literally, literally when it comes out, cause it comes out every Tuesday.
00:03:33 --> 00:04:01 <v Amanda>Um, I always listened to collision, which came out today, and, funny little thing, stephen williams directed collision and kip gave us a little trivia about stephen williams, so I'm gonna see if theresa remembers her own trivia theresa, how many episodes total of lost to stephen williams direct?
00:04:02 --> 00:04:05 <v Amanda>we had a little back and forth on this because you said 42.
00:04:05 --> 00:04:07 <v Amanda>And then we were like it's not a sitcom.
00:04:09 --> 00:04:10 <v Kip>And then we had to.
00:04:10 --> 00:04:10 <v Amanda>What?
00:04:10 --> 00:04:12 <v Amanda>It was a little thing, because you were like 42.
00:04:12 --> 00:04:16 <v Amanda>I don't even remember, I didn't listen to this episode yet and you started, I know, but do you remember what you actually said?
00:04:16 --> 00:04:19 <v Amanda>I remember the answer I spiraled.
00:04:19 --> 00:04:21 <v Amanda>No, we all spiraled all the time.
00:04:21 --> 00:04:22 <v Amanda>That's what we do.
00:04:22 --> 00:04:24 <v Theresa>I feel like I would have said one of the numbers you did.
00:04:24 --> 00:04:29 <v Amanda>And then you said another one of the numbers, and then you said I'm just saying the numbers, but you don't remember what it?
00:04:29 --> 00:04:31 <v Kip>was then I'd probably start with 23.
00:04:32 --> 00:04:33 <v Amanda>Yes, but it's 25.
00:04:33 --> 00:04:35 <v Amanda>25.
00:04:35 --> 00:04:37 <v Amanda>This is another one of all this to say.
00:04:37 --> 00:04:39 <v Amanda>I just think it's funny that the last one I listened to.
00:04:45 --> 00:04:46 <v Theresa>Where, where are we going with this, stephen Williams, is we're back to a Stephen Williams episode.
00:04:46 --> 00:04:47 <v Theresa>Our very most prolific.
00:04:47 --> 00:04:49 <v Theresa>Oh, I see, I see, I thought she was making fun of me.
00:04:49 --> 00:04:50 <v Theresa>Again, it's February 20th.
00:04:50 --> 00:04:54 <v Kip>today we're recording Lockdown directed by Stephen Williams.
00:04:54 --> 00:04:59 <v Kip>But, also released today into the wild was.
00:04:59 --> 00:05:09 <v Amanda>Collision directed by Stephen Williams, and I think that just goes to show exactly what we were talking about in that episode, which is that Stephen Williams very prolific lost director directed 25 episodes.
00:05:09 --> 00:05:10 <v Kip>Yeah, that's a lot.
00:05:10 --> 00:05:11 <v Amanda>That's a lot.
00:05:11 --> 00:05:12 <v Amanda>That's a lot for a show, especially a drama.
00:05:12 --> 00:05:17 <v Amanda>So Stephen Williams clearly earning his paycheck because they're great episodes that he's directing.
00:05:17 --> 00:05:19 <v Kip>I wonder what he's, what he did, since.
00:05:20 --> 00:05:20 <v Amanda>I don't know.
00:05:22 --> 00:05:23 <v Kip>Yeah, we'll have to look that up, stephen, let us know.
00:05:24 --> 00:05:24 <v Theresa>Is it Stephen?
00:05:25 --> 00:05:29 <v Kip>I don't know, I assume, I don't know, I think it's because it's PH, right?
00:05:29 --> 00:05:36 <v Theresa>Yeah, stephen, with a PH is a thing, stephen is usually with an F, f and an A, is that not Stefan?
00:05:38 --> 00:05:41 <v Kip>But Stefan and Stefan are the same.
00:05:41 --> 00:05:44 <v Kip>It's just different enunciation, is that not?
00:05:45 --> 00:05:46 <v Amanda>Stefan.
00:05:46 --> 00:05:51 <v Amanda>I mean, perhaps I can't have children.
00:05:51 --> 00:05:54 <v Amanda>You can just give them names that can't be fucked with.
00:05:54 --> 00:05:56 <v Kip>Why did you say you can't have children Because I?
00:05:56 --> 00:05:58 <v Theresa>can't be in charge of naming a human.
00:05:58 --> 00:05:59 <v Amanda>Just name it Adam.
00:05:59 --> 00:06:03 <v Amanda>A-t-o-m Shit, name it Michael.
00:06:04 --> 00:06:04 <v Kip>No, never I keep making this.
00:06:04 --> 00:06:05 <v Kip>Oh shit, Name it Michael.
00:06:05 --> 00:06:09 <v Kip>No, never I keep making this worse and worse Name it Walt, no Shannon.
00:06:11 --> 00:06:14 <v Amanda>I mean, if we have kids, we have to give them lost names.
00:06:14 --> 00:06:15 <v Theresa>I'd probably pick Sawyer.
00:06:15 --> 00:06:17 <v Theresa>Oh yeah, that's a good one, I'll pick.
00:06:18 --> 00:06:26 <v Amanda>I would pick Desmond Smokey Okie dokie Smokey monster, and every time I saw your kid I'd be like okie dokie Smokey.
00:06:26 --> 00:06:27 <v Theresa>Monster.
00:06:27 --> 00:06:31 <v Theresa>Please, somebody, could you name the middle name Monster?
00:06:32 --> 00:06:35 <v Kip>Smokey Monster Gunther yeah.
00:06:35 --> 00:06:36 <v Amanda>I'd name it Ben.
00:06:38 --> 00:06:38 <v Kip>Oh.
00:06:39 --> 00:06:40 <v Theresa>Ooh Henry Gale.
00:06:41 --> 00:06:43 <v Kip>All right, let me read you some facts and trivia about this episode.
00:06:43 --> 00:06:44 <v Theresa>Okay, I'm ready.
00:06:46 --> 00:06:50 <v Kip>Okay, so this is a high ranker well obviously nine out of ten on imdb.
00:06:50 --> 00:06:51 <v Kip>So we're right up there.
00:06:51 --> 00:07:00 <v Kip>Uh, 16.21 million viewers, which is actually an increase from the previous episode, so people wanted to tune in well, it's henry gale storyline.
00:07:01 --> 00:07:03 <v Amanda>It's, it's a yeah, it's what's wanting.
00:07:03 --> 00:07:04 <v Amanda>Even I've seen it and I want to keep.
00:07:04 --> 00:07:08 <v Amanda>I can imagine the promos for this would have been oh yeah epic.
00:07:08 --> 00:07:10 <v Kip>Okay, so saw your nickname count.
00:07:10 --> 00:07:13 <v Kip>We had four this episode.
00:07:13 --> 00:07:17 <v Amanda>Let's get some guesses in mongo or whatever he calls yeah, at one point.
00:07:17 --> 00:07:23 <v Amanda>I don't know what that means, but I don't like it tattoo no no, that wasn't dave.
00:07:23 --> 00:07:25 <v Amanda>It's the beginning of the episode.
00:07:25 --> 00:07:32 <v Kip>Oh my god we can't do it, yeah, I know, sorry, that was my bad dang next week tattoo there was one that he calls.
00:07:32 --> 00:07:43 <v Theresa>He calls something, something man or something um, okay, so we have mutton chops oh, yeah, for hurley armor amarillo, amarillo slim.
00:07:43 --> 00:07:44 <v Theresa>That's it.
00:07:44 --> 00:07:48 <v Theresa>Yeah, I didn't know what that meant, he's a cigarette type.
00:07:48 --> 00:07:48 <v Kip>That's what I thought.
00:07:50 --> 00:07:50 <v Theresa>Okay, I don't know.
00:07:50 --> 00:07:52 <v Theresa>None of us are smokers.
00:07:52 --> 00:07:55 <v Kip>Cool Hand, calls him Okay.
00:07:55 --> 00:07:56 <v Kip>And then?
00:07:56 --> 00:07:56 <v Amanda>Mongo.
00:07:56 --> 00:08:01 <v Amanda>So two for Hurley, two for I guess it's really Other than Kate.
00:08:01 --> 00:08:02 <v Amanda>Those are the only two people he really attracted.
00:08:02 --> 00:08:12 <v Kip>We call them Doc a lot, but I don't count those anymore no no 61, day 61 on the island and we have one uh concussion, but it was self-inflicted.
00:08:12 --> 00:08:15 <v Kip>Henry gale fell, knocked himself out.
00:08:15 --> 00:08:22 <v Kip>So many knockouts like how do you just go unconscious from falling?
00:08:23 --> 00:08:25 <v Amanda>I've fallen a lot in life.
00:08:25 --> 00:08:44 <v Theresa>I've never been unconscious I have been knocked unconscious once for like four seconds, but that's because, yeah, like I was trying to, I was playing basketball and I was, I had my arms crossed in front of me and I was like ready to take this girl on, who was like a lot taller and like bigger and faster than I was, and she was coming at me and I was like here we go.
00:08:44 --> 00:08:49 <v Theresa>And then she knocked into me and I like hit my head and then went out for a little bit and then I woke up and I was like what?
00:08:49 --> 00:08:59 <v Theresa>happened wow it was like literally four seconds of being out, not as long as I don't know how long henry was out for, but quite some time all right, I have two trivia questions.
00:08:59 --> 00:09:02 <v Kip>I'm ready they're gonna be so hard I can feel it.
00:09:02 --> 00:09:04 <v Kip>Um, I don't think so.
00:09:04 --> 00:09:09 <v Kip>Okay, question one who is the person for whom lock does the home inspection?
00:09:09 --> 00:09:19 <v Kip>What?
00:09:20 --> 00:09:24 <v Amanda>I haven't decided if that means she's earned it more or she has locked herself out of the competition.
00:09:24 --> 00:09:26 <v Kip>I know that was extreme.
00:09:26 --> 00:09:29 <v Theresa>It's because I raised my hand and then I remembered.
00:09:29 --> 00:09:30 <v Kip>You can't raise your hand.
00:09:30 --> 00:09:32 <v Kip>You gotta make a sound, because I raised my hand.
00:09:32 --> 00:09:38 <v Theresa>I raised my hand and then I was like wait, we're not supposed to, we have to say other things.
00:09:38 --> 00:09:42 <v Kip>So okay, teresa, go for it, nadia, that's correct, nadia.
00:09:43 --> 00:09:48 <v Amanda>And at this junction in her life she's clearly not with Saeed.
00:09:48 --> 00:09:53 <v Amanda>No, because she says if I had a husband I would be here?
00:09:54 --> 00:09:56 <v Kip>Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.
00:09:56 --> 00:09:59 <v Kip>Like when does this line up Mm-hmm, all right.
00:09:59 --> 00:10:04 <v Kip>Question two what number was Anthony Cooper's safety?
00:10:05 --> 00:10:06 <v Amanda>deposit box.
00:10:06 --> 00:10:07 <v Theresa>Walt.
00:10:07 --> 00:10:16 <v Kip>Okay, I also know this for the record One, two, three, 15, 16.
00:10:16 --> 00:10:19 <v Amanda>Yeah, oh, I thought you were doing one five, one six.
00:10:19 --> 00:10:20 <v Amanda>That's what I thought we were doing.
00:10:20 --> 00:10:22 <v Amanda>That's why, when you said one, I said five.
00:10:22 --> 00:10:24 <v Kip>She literally hears yeah, that's what I thought.
00:10:24 --> 00:10:25 <v Kip>No, you were like you said one, I said five.
00:10:25 --> 00:10:27 <v Amanda>She literally hears trees said yeah, that's what I thought.
00:10:27 --> 00:10:29 <v Theresa>No, you were like you said, I said one, and then I said five.
00:10:30 --> 00:10:35 <v Amanda>I said two because it was 15 16, so I thought we're going back and forth.
00:10:35 --> 00:10:38 <v Kip>Anyway, it's 15 16, it is 15 16.
00:10:38 --> 00:10:42 <v Kip>Yes, theresa you, I swept it, I swept it for the first time.
00:10:42 --> 00:10:45 <v Theresa>that was one of the greatest moments of my life.
00:10:45 --> 00:10:48 <v Theresa>I'm actually sweating a little bit that was very intense.
00:10:48 --> 00:10:51 <v Kip>It was so intense, yeah, okay.
00:10:51 --> 00:10:53 <v Kip>So there you have it.
00:10:53 --> 00:10:54 <v Kip>Teresa wins for the first time.
00:10:54 --> 00:10:57 <v Kip>No, I don't think it's the first time, it's like the second.
00:10:57 --> 00:10:58 <v Kip>All right.
00:10:58 --> 00:10:59 <v Kip>So let's have it, Amanda.
00:10:59 --> 00:11:16 <v Amanda>Let's have the high level takeaway I think that kate is playing into this love triangle more than I remember her playing into it.
00:11:16 --> 00:11:23 <v Amanda>I remember thinking that it was a lot more like circumstance happening to her and around her.
00:11:23 --> 00:11:33 <v Amanda>I didn't't and I know this is a weird, this is a weird high level takeaway for me, cause you'd think anything that would like paint Kate in a worse picture I would have taken away from it, but I actually didn't.
00:11:33 --> 00:11:41 <v Amanda>I always kind of thought like the love triangle between the three of them was really like a device caused by Jack and Sawyer.
00:11:42 --> 00:11:54 <v Amanda>But she's playing into it a lot like playing poker with sawyer and then like whatever was happening at the end there with jack.
00:11:54 --> 00:11:59 <v Amanda>I just, kate, you're a lot of things, but you're better than this, you know.
00:11:59 --> 00:12:02 <v Amanda>You're better than this and that's my, my high level takeaway from it.
00:12:02 --> 00:12:18 <v Amanda>When you look at it from a whole, like like I said, I always kind of thought like Kate was just kind of a victim of the circumstance and like rivalry between the boys that she kind of got caught in the middle of, and I don't like to like it's not, it's not a bad thing, like she can do what she wants, like she can play them both if she wants.
00:12:18 --> 00:12:20 <v Amanda>Hey girl, get yours.
00:12:20 --> 00:12:20 <v Amanda>You know.
00:12:20 --> 00:12:27 <v Amanda>But I'm just saying I think she likes to make it seem like this was all happening around her and I used to think that too.
00:12:27 --> 00:12:40 <v Amanda>I used to be like you know, like that joke she makes about, maybe I should go get a ruler Like I always kind of saw them as these, like competitive things that she just kind of was like in the middle of, but I know, I think she, I think she likes it a little bit too, so fair take.
00:12:41 --> 00:12:49 <v Amanda>And this is the first episode where I kind of looked back on all of their interactions and was like, Kate, you gotta be careful here, you know it was that.
00:12:50 --> 00:12:52 <v Kip>It was that walk in the woods.
00:12:52 --> 00:12:55 <v Amanda>Yeah, like and like she, just she's like that.
00:12:55 --> 00:13:20 <v Amanda>I think that bothers me, cause it's like Kate, like I said, obviously it's weird for me to be defending her, but like she is like I don't like her, but she is like supposed to be this like strong female character, and it just pisses me off when they take this strong female character and then like, just like, reduce her to this like middle, like, oh, like, I just don't think she would be like that, like it doesn't make sense to me, like I think she would be a lot more open about it.
00:13:20 --> 00:13:33 <v Amanda>I don't think she'd be playing them this like I don't know, and then, like, I feel like when jack's around she's worse to sawyer and when I don't know, the whole thing is just I, I never put a lot into it.
00:13:33 --> 00:13:38 <v Amanda>Like I know they talk about the love triangle a lot and I used to remember, I used to kind of say like I don't think it was that big of a thing.
00:13:38 --> 00:13:54 <v Amanda>But now, re-watching, I'm like it actually is a pretty big thing and it it's not a very attractive look for really any of them agreed yeah, there you go, thank you teresa, I think you know what that means it's time for
00:13:55 --> 00:13:59 <v Theresa>teresa's dream of consciousness also all right.
00:13:59 --> 00:14:02 <v Theresa>So this recap reminds me that Henry is fucked.
00:14:02 --> 00:14:06 <v Theresa>Oh, that's a ring and a box and a socks lock.
00:14:06 --> 00:14:08 <v Theresa>Ugh, I hate young lock.
00:14:08 --> 00:14:11 <v Theresa>Give me old lock, it looks more natural.
00:14:11 --> 00:14:13 <v Theresa>Young lock looks so pink Pink.
00:14:13 --> 00:14:17 <v Theresa>Oh, yeah, that is his name.
00:14:17 --> 00:14:20 <v Theresa>His name is Anthony Cooper why, oh, he died.
00:14:20 --> 00:14:22 <v Theresa>I probably could have put that two and two together.
00:14:22 --> 00:14:29 <v Theresa>Considering she's reading the obituaries, island lock makes so much more sense to me than off island lock.
00:14:29 --> 00:14:33 <v Theresa>Also, jack, you brought him out of his hidey hole.
00:14:33 --> 00:14:34 <v Theresa>You put him back.
00:14:34 --> 00:14:36 <v Theresa>Don't make lock, do it, man.
00:14:36 --> 00:14:38 <v Theresa>Henry really knows how to lay into people.
00:14:38 --> 00:14:41 <v Theresa>Hey, okay, I don't love this whole.
00:14:41 --> 00:14:42 <v Theresa>Why isn't it raining here?
00:14:42 --> 00:14:43 <v Theresa>But no one's looked up at all for a balloon?
00:14:43 --> 00:14:44 <v Theresa>Okay, I don't love this whole.
00:14:44 --> 00:14:44 <v Theresa>Why isn't it raining here?
00:14:44 --> 00:14:46 <v Theresa>But no one's looked up at all for a balloon?
00:14:46 --> 00:14:47 <v Theresa>Or has no one noticed that?
00:14:47 --> 00:14:53 <v Theresa>It was kind of weird and kind of shady in this area before it started raining, because it wasn't always raining.
00:14:53 --> 00:14:54 <v Theresa>I don't think there's a loop, jack.
00:14:54 --> 00:14:56 <v Theresa>What does that mean?
00:14:56 --> 00:14:59 <v Theresa>There's a loop, jack, don't lie, there's a few loops.
00:14:59 --> 00:15:00 <v Theresa>Don't know what that means.
00:15:00 --> 00:15:06 <v Theresa>That's such a big baby.
00:15:06 --> 00:15:07 <v Theresa>I can't stop commenting on this.
00:15:07 --> 00:15:08 <v Theresa>Hey, look at Locke saying fit and peddling to some music.
00:15:08 --> 00:15:09 <v Theresa>Wait, what's going on?
00:15:09 --> 00:15:11 <v Theresa>What's this noise?
00:15:11 --> 00:15:12 <v Theresa>A radio speaker?
00:15:12 --> 00:15:14 <v Theresa>Why all of a sudden lockdown?
00:15:14 --> 00:15:14 <v Theresa>For why?
00:15:14 --> 00:15:16 <v Theresa>Oh my God, helen's the best.
00:15:16 --> 00:15:19 <v Theresa>Oh my God, there's no one at this funeral.
00:15:19 --> 00:15:20 <v Theresa>Awkward.
00:15:20 --> 00:15:22 <v Theresa>Who are the?
00:15:22 --> 00:15:24 <v Theresa>Who are the sketchies over there?
00:15:24 --> 00:15:26 <v Theresa>Wait, why do you forgive him?
00:15:26 --> 00:15:29 <v Theresa>He didn't even ask for forgiveness, he's just an asshole.
00:15:29 --> 00:15:30 <v Theresa>Shut up, henry.
00:15:30 --> 00:15:31 <v Theresa>We need no more chatter from you.
00:15:31 --> 00:15:33 <v Theresa>Shut up, henry.
00:15:33 --> 00:15:36 <v Theresa>Okay, me and Locke definitely on the same wavelength.
00:15:36 --> 00:15:37 <v Theresa>Wait, what the fuck?
00:15:37 --> 00:15:38 <v Theresa>Why are we locked down like this?
00:15:38 --> 00:15:39 <v Theresa>I need an adult.
00:15:39 --> 00:15:41 <v Theresa>Oh, look at them.
00:15:41 --> 00:15:42 <v Theresa>Play with the prutes.
00:15:42 --> 00:15:59 <v Theresa>Okay, jack, why, sawyer, let me put my mangoes where your mouth is good, god?
00:15:59 --> 00:16:01 <v Theresa>Um, join in, jack, come on, have some fun.
00:16:02 --> 00:16:04 <v Theresa>Um, I literally would go crazy if I was stuck with Henry.
00:16:04 --> 00:16:05 <v Theresa>He literally never shuts the fuck up.
00:16:05 --> 00:16:07 <v Theresa>I feel like that's Nadia.
00:16:07 --> 00:16:09 <v Theresa>John, you're so brave.
00:16:09 --> 00:16:13 <v Theresa>I wouldn't just walk up to a no-no car that's all tinted up and see what's going on.
00:16:13 --> 00:16:16 <v Theresa>Well, of course, this son of a bitch is still alive.
00:16:17 --> 00:16:17 <v Theresa>Why are we drinking with him?
00:16:17 --> 00:16:20 <v Theresa>This is so fucked.
00:16:20 --> 00:16:21 <v Theresa>No, just no, anthony.
00:16:21 --> 00:16:23 <v Theresa>No, you can't ask Bitch bye.
00:16:23 --> 00:16:25 <v Theresa>Don't even entertain it, john.
00:16:25 --> 00:16:27 <v Theresa>Why would you tell him anything?
00:16:27 --> 00:16:28 <v Theresa>This is ridiculous.
00:16:30 --> 00:16:31 <v Theresa>I would tell Henry we're locked in.
00:16:31 --> 00:16:32 <v Theresa>I wouldn't tell Henry we're locked in.
00:16:32 --> 00:16:34 <v Theresa>He doesn't know he's already locked in.
00:16:34 --> 00:16:35 <v Theresa>You know he wouldn't care.
00:16:37 --> 00:16:38 <v Theresa>No, don't make words.
00:16:38 --> 00:16:40 <v Theresa>Don't be making deals with this ass hat.
00:16:40 --> 00:16:44 <v Theresa>Do not make this deal, john, john, jonathan, do not.
00:16:44 --> 00:16:46 <v Theresa>I said no, that's a bad John.
00:16:46 --> 00:16:49 <v Theresa>Oh, look, we've added some bananas to poker.
00:16:49 --> 00:16:52 <v Theresa>Wait, when did Jack had a Nalgene bottle?
00:16:52 --> 00:16:55 <v Theresa>Jack is cute when he's playing poker.
00:16:55 --> 00:16:57 <v Theresa>I can't even type.
00:16:57 --> 00:16:57 <v Theresa>This is too stressful.
00:16:58 --> 00:17:00 <v Theresa>We know that the toolbox is essentially sheet metal.
00:17:00 --> 00:17:02 <v Theresa>Right, that's not going to hold anything, and I called it.
00:17:02 --> 00:17:05 <v Theresa>Good thing he didn't slide in head first.
00:17:05 --> 00:17:05 <v Theresa>What the fuck?
00:17:05 --> 00:17:13 <v Theresa>Henry's actually helping, which is fine, I guess, locke, you took some money, didn't you?
00:17:13 --> 00:17:17 <v Theresa>You know it's rude to dump out someone's bag like that man.
00:17:17 --> 00:17:17 <v Theresa>Helen is a badass.
00:17:18 --> 00:17:19 <v Theresa>Why do we lie john?
00:17:19 --> 00:17:22 <v Theresa>Why do we lie jack?
00:17:22 --> 00:17:24 <v Theresa>We really don't need to talk about this tattoo.
00:17:24 --> 00:17:27 <v Theresa>That's the only, that's about the only thing I remember about it.
00:17:28 --> 00:17:30 <v Theresa>So here's the best little damps.
00:17:30 --> 00:17:31 <v Theresa>Why are you holding?
00:17:31 --> 00:17:34 <v Theresa>Why are you holding him like that?
00:17:34 --> 00:17:35 <v Theresa>I can't remember.
00:17:35 --> 00:17:41 <v Theresa>I think it was john holding henry or henry holding john, but they're holding each other in a weird way.
00:17:41 --> 00:17:44 <v Theresa>You know that pantry is empty.
00:17:44 --> 00:17:45 <v Theresa>Who triggered?
00:17:45 --> 00:17:46 <v Theresa>What triggered this lockdown?
00:17:46 --> 00:17:48 <v Theresa>Anyway, he just got there.
00:17:48 --> 00:17:50 <v Theresa>John, relax, is john gonna bleed out?
00:17:50 --> 00:17:54 <v Theresa>And henry fell, rot row man.
00:17:54 --> 00:17:56 <v Theresa>Everybody's watching this mango poker sitch.
00:17:56 --> 00:17:59 <v Theresa>Ew, burning jokes gross.
00:17:59 --> 00:18:02 <v Theresa>I've never noticed this before.
00:18:02 --> 00:18:03 <v Theresa>But jack has nice eyes.
00:18:03 --> 00:18:04 <v Theresa>When did back?
00:18:04 --> 00:18:07 <v Theresa>When did jack get such a nice leather backpack?
00:18:07 --> 00:18:11 <v Theresa>I'll, when I need the guns, I'll get the guns.
00:18:11 --> 00:18:17 <v Theresa>That certainly is smexing man down.
00:18:17 --> 00:18:18 <v Theresa>Henry fell, lol.
00:18:18 --> 00:18:20 <v Theresa>John outright doesn't care, he just hit the button.
00:18:20 --> 00:18:22 <v Theresa>Just get to the button.
00:18:23 --> 00:18:24 <v Theresa>I don't know why you would do this for him.
00:18:24 --> 00:18:25 <v Theresa>I don't understand.
00:18:25 --> 00:18:27 <v Theresa>Won't the bad guys just follow Anthony around?
00:18:27 --> 00:18:29 <v Theresa>If you didn't do it for the money, then why'd you do it?
00:18:29 --> 00:18:30 <v Theresa>I don't get it.
00:18:30 --> 00:18:34 <v Theresa>I'm not good with subtlety.
00:18:34 --> 00:18:35 <v Theresa>Oh, I told you, helen was a badass.
00:18:35 --> 00:18:36 <v Theresa>She knows what's up Always.
00:18:36 --> 00:18:38 <v Theresa>No, you're done, john.
00:18:38 --> 00:18:38 <v Theresa>You made your choice.
00:18:38 --> 00:18:42 <v Theresa>Sorry, john, but no, if I were her, I'd say no, I can't trust you, boo.
00:18:42 --> 00:18:44 <v Theresa>And no, it is.
00:18:44 --> 00:18:46 <v Theresa>And then there's Henry.
00:18:46 --> 00:18:47 <v Theresa>Like bye bitch, I'm off.
00:18:47 --> 00:18:50 <v Theresa>Do only oceanic flights pass over this hotel?
00:18:50 --> 00:18:52 <v Theresa>Oh, oh, my god.
00:18:52 --> 00:18:53 <v Theresa>Oh, my god, he didn't make it.
00:18:53 --> 00:18:53 <v Theresa>It's dark.
00:18:53 --> 00:18:54 <v Theresa>I need an adult.
00:18:55 --> 00:18:55 <v Theresa>Oh, my god, what are this?
00:18:55 --> 00:18:57 <v Theresa>Did we know that there are black lights?
00:18:57 --> 00:18:57 <v Theresa>What the heck?
00:18:57 --> 00:18:58 <v Theresa>I am here, help, help.
00:18:58 --> 00:19:00 <v Theresa>That's so scary.
00:19:00 --> 00:19:01 <v Theresa>What's in the middle?
00:19:01 --> 00:19:02 <v Theresa>I don't want to see john's face.
00:19:02 --> 00:19:03 <v Theresa>Show me the other things.
00:19:03 --> 00:19:04 <v Theresa>Stop showing me john's face.
00:19:04 --> 00:19:05 <v Theresa>I just want to see the mural.
00:19:05 --> 00:19:07 <v Theresa>Okay, lockdown over.
00:19:07 --> 00:19:08 <v Theresa>Wait, why the lockdown again?
00:19:08 --> 00:19:11 <v Theresa>Henry dunran bitch, he's free.
00:19:11 --> 00:19:14 <v Theresa>You trusted the wrong fucker.
00:19:14 --> 00:19:16 <v Theresa>Oh, never mind.
00:19:16 --> 00:19:17 <v Theresa>Of course he comes from behind.
00:19:17 --> 00:19:17 <v Theresa>Like how, why?
00:19:17 --> 00:19:18 <v Theresa>Why from behind?
00:19:18 --> 00:19:23 <v Theresa>Okay, so henry stays and helen anthony anthony, leave him.
00:19:23 --> 00:19:24 <v Theresa>That's awkward.
00:19:24 --> 00:19:26 <v Theresa>Oh, jack and kate are cute.
00:19:26 --> 00:19:28 <v Theresa>Again, wait, more food.
00:19:28 --> 00:19:31 <v Theresa>I mean, I did say their pantry was empty, but then again, how does this work?
00:19:31 --> 00:19:36 <v Theresa>Is there a constant refill of food, but then again more people are eating than if it was just desmond?
00:19:36 --> 00:19:37 <v Theresa>So how does the hatch know?
00:19:37 --> 00:19:40 <v Theresa>Oh man, jack is looking hottie to trotty.
00:19:40 --> 00:19:43 <v Theresa>Uh-oh, saeed's looking hella angry.
00:19:43 --> 00:19:45 <v Theresa>So I think something is amiss here.
00:19:45 --> 00:19:55 <v Theresa>Okay, hold on minus 50 for digging up a grave, but plus 200 finally showing us that Henry, or whoever he is, is full on fucking lying.
00:19:58 --> 00:20:00 <v Amanda>Okay, okay, good as usual.
00:20:00 --> 00:20:04 <v Amanda>I made a couple notes because Okay, good as usual.
00:20:04 --> 00:20:17 <v Amanda>First of all, yes, that scene where Anna Lucia is like holding her hands out and she's like twice she looks at them what are you talking about?
00:20:17 --> 00:20:26 <v Amanda>When they find the grave oh and then she's looking at her hands, and then she talks for a second, and then she looks at them again and she's like why is it not raining here?
00:20:26 --> 00:20:33 <v Amanda>like it is everywhere else and I'm like when, like the first time you do that, when you like just look up like you'd be like, oh that's weird up, oh that's weird up.
00:20:33 --> 00:20:35 <v Amanda>No, it's like that's weird guys.
00:20:35 --> 00:20:36 <v Amanda>Why is this weird?
00:20:36 --> 00:20:38 <v Amanda>It was very strange.
00:20:38 --> 00:20:48 <v Amanda>I know it's for dramatically packed, I just I know it was one of the first things like because they're so good that it was one of and this is a jaymond lindelof, carlton hughes episode, I just want to say and steven williams directed episode.
00:20:48 --> 00:20:56 <v Amanda>So it's like the, the peak people here, and it's like the peak people here and it's like that's just well, you're forgetting about Mr Jack Jack.
00:20:56 --> 00:20:58 <v Amanda>Bender would not have made this mistake.
00:20:58 --> 00:21:01 <v Amanda>Jack Bender would have been like I don't see a look up, just look up.
00:21:02 --> 00:21:05 <v Amanda>But no, seriously, it's one of the first times that it like took me out of it, because they're usually better than that.
00:21:18 --> 00:21:19 <v Kip>Like that was clearly for her to be able to say to them what's happening.
00:21:19 --> 00:21:20 <v Kip>Then they could all dramatically look up but like a normal person would have just been like that's weird huh balloon.
00:21:20 --> 00:21:22 <v Theresa>I also don't don't buy that charlie wouldn't have just seen it when he's been standing there for who knows how long.
00:21:22 --> 00:21:22 <v Amanda>Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
00:21:22 --> 00:21:23 <v Amanda>The other thing first.
00:21:23 --> 00:21:25 <v Amanda>I'll say also when I need the guns, I'll get the guns.
00:21:25 --> 00:21:28 <v Amanda>Agree, super schmucksy, um loop.
00:21:28 --> 00:21:36 <v Amanda>What you meant by loop, yeah, was that he hurley says to jack that he feels left out of a loop, oh, and jack's like there's no loop.
00:21:36 --> 00:21:37 <v Amanda>Charlie and you're?
00:21:37 --> 00:21:40 <v Amanda>I think your response is yes, there are lots of yeah, there's a loop.
00:21:40 --> 00:21:42 <v Theresa>Yeah, that's what you meant by that.
00:21:42 --> 00:22:03 <v Theresa>Yeah, because yeah, he's saying I feel out of the loop and jack's trying to be like there's no loop and it's like really, there's definitely a loop you know, what's really helpful when I'm doing my streams and when I'm watching the episode is sometimes I'll say what I'm going to write out loud more often than not, and Amanda was there for it, so I feel like she can really fill in the gaps Can hone in.
00:22:04 --> 00:22:04 <v Kip>That's good.
00:22:04 --> 00:22:16 <v Theresa>If I don't remember what I was writing about, it was a John Locke episode, but Amanda's favorite gilf Amanda's favorite gilf episode, but amanda's favorite gilf.
00:22:16 --> 00:22:17 <v Amanda>Amanda's favorite gilf.
00:22:17 --> 00:22:21 <v Amanda>Well, he's never gonna have grandchildren if he can't stop putting his dad before women.
00:22:21 --> 00:22:24 <v Kip>Yeah, it was such a disappointing episode for john I mean they all are.
00:22:24 --> 00:22:26 <v Kip>Let's be real, it's the last time.
00:22:26 --> 00:22:40 <v Amanda>A john episode the last one, I guess ended the most hopeful of any of them, like when he goes off with helen after yes but they're never good but they're never good even that was like such a struggle, like, oh, he's just got such a sad life.
00:22:40 --> 00:22:41 <v Kip>It's so sad.
00:22:41 --> 00:22:44 <v Kip>I mean, john, why are you lying so much?
00:22:44 --> 00:22:48 <v Kip>Stop lying to her face to her face, literally why didn't you?
00:22:48 --> 00:22:53 <v Amanda>just tell her I was awful because he knew she would leave and like that's what he's trying to avoid.
00:22:53 --> 00:22:54 <v Amanda>But then he, he made it worse anyway.
00:22:54 --> 00:22:57 <v Theresa>But it's so much worse that he lied and she found out about it.
00:22:57 --> 00:23:02 <v Theresa>Oh, 100% If he had just said like look, my dad actually isn't dead.
00:23:02 --> 00:23:10 <v Theresa>He came to me to like ask me for a favor, that's she didn't seek him out, Right Like Anthony's the one who came to him.
00:23:10 --> 00:23:14 <v Kip>So like that's a whole different story, helen would have worked with him through it Exactly.
00:23:15 --> 00:23:23 <v Amanda>Especially because Helen is the one who saw the obituary, pointed it out to him, went to the funeral with him when those guys showed up.
00:23:23 --> 00:23:38 <v Amanda>I don't know we're just doing the whole episode, but when those guys showed up she's the one who like kind of defended him Like I think if he just kind of said, like this is a part of it, like this is a part of my letting go, part of my whatever, I think she would have been like okay busting it like 200 grand.
00:23:39 --> 00:23:41 <v Kip>Yeah, it's not bad no, it's not.
00:23:41 --> 00:23:42 <v Theresa>And she'd be like great.
00:23:42 --> 00:23:45 <v Theresa>Now we can cut him out of our lives for sure, like let's just be done with it.
00:23:46 --> 00:23:47 <v Kip>He'll go with his 500.
00:23:47 --> 00:23:48 <v Kip>I don't think she would have taken the money.
00:23:48 --> 00:23:49 <v Kip>No, I don't think so.
00:23:49 --> 00:23:53 <v Amanda>No, but at least it would have been like more of a discussion yeah.
00:23:53 --> 00:23:54 <v Amanda>Because that was so sad.
00:23:54 --> 00:23:55 <v Kip>Oh, it was awful.
00:23:55 --> 00:24:01 <v Amanda>To start the episode with him like planning this like picnic, and then, just because she read the obituaries, I know he was so happy.
00:24:01 --> 00:24:08 <v Kip>It was just such a departure from him Like he was just happy and he was so excited and he was going to propose.
00:24:08 --> 00:24:12 <v Kip>And then she just happened to read the obits, which apparently she loves doing.
00:24:14 --> 00:24:14 <v Theresa>Which is weird.
00:24:14 --> 00:24:18 <v Amanda>Yeah, she's not wrong though there is no one ever says something mean about someone in the obituary.
00:24:18 --> 00:24:22 <v Kip>That's true, but like who who would have taken out the obituary for Anthony Cooper?
00:24:22 --> 00:24:27 <v Amanda>He must've done it himself oh right Cause he wasn't actually dead.
00:24:27 --> 00:24:30 <v Amanda>Yeah, right, I will say.
00:24:30 --> 00:24:36 <v Amanda>As you guys know, there's notes and questions that we go off of on a whiteboard, and who plays?
00:24:36 --> 00:24:43 <v Amanda>The obit is the first one, and I read it and I was like, well, probably the fake dead guy, you're smarter than this.
00:24:43 --> 00:24:47 <v Amanda>I'm not going to say anything because you know I can't believe anything.
00:24:47 --> 00:24:53 <v Amanda>No, but like the whole thing is like such an elaborate, like.
00:24:53 --> 00:24:56 <v Amanda>The best part is this is probably Anthony Cooper's nicest.
00:24:57 --> 00:25:01 <v Amanda>This is probably the nicest, least horrible thing he does the entire time We've.
00:25:01 --> 00:25:04 <v Kip>we know him throughout the series you know, faking his own death yeah.
00:25:05 --> 00:25:08 <v Amanda>And, like Bill Kingsman, out of 700 getting John wrapped up in it.
00:25:09 --> 00:25:11 <v Kip>Just a retirement con he calls it.
00:25:11 --> 00:25:12 <v Amanda>What a psycho.
00:25:12 --> 00:25:13 <v Amanda>So casual guys.
00:25:13 --> 00:25:21 <v Amanda>Am I the only one who was like when he said retirement con, unless that's like code for something that I don't understand?
00:25:21 --> 00:25:26 <v Amanda>If it's like, truly just like a, this is a con about your retirement plan.
00:25:26 --> 00:25:29 <v Amanda>Did you think those two guys would be in on a retirement con?
00:25:30 --> 00:25:31 <v Kip>What do you mean?
00:25:31 --> 00:25:33 <v Amanda>Like, do you think those two guys like would fall for a retirement con?
00:25:33 --> 00:25:33 <v Amanda>What do you mean?
00:25:33 --> 00:25:35 <v Amanda>Like do you think those two guys like would fall for a retirement con?
00:25:35 --> 00:25:49 <v Amanda>Oh unless they're like hired guns for someone else I feel like they were hired guys okay, like I feel like they were, yeah, bounty hunters in a sense because those two guys did not strike me as the we fell for a retire.
00:25:49 --> 00:26:08 <v Amanda>They don't strike me as the looking for a retirement fund type no, yeah, they felt like grunty, okay, grunts okay, grunty, grunty they kind of remind me of the dramatic version of the like street thugs from seinfeld that take totally, oh my god yes, like that's the dramatic version like the actual, like I'm so glad.
00:26:08 --> 00:26:10 <v Kip>Actually they were scary they were.
00:26:11 --> 00:26:15 <v Amanda>They were really scary and, when he like, dumped his no, I meant the ones from Seinfeld.
00:26:15 --> 00:26:20 <v Amanda>Well, I wouldn't want to be shook down by them either.
00:26:23 --> 00:26:24 <v Kip>Everyone's scary.
00:26:24 --> 00:26:25 <v Kip>Yeah, the ones from Lost were.
00:26:26 --> 00:26:30 <v Amanda>Pretty much anyone could be like give me your money and I'd be like, okay, Same, to be honest.
00:26:30 --> 00:26:32 <v Amanda>I'm not going to argue.
00:26:34 --> 00:26:34 <v Kip>Thugs.
00:26:34 --> 00:26:40 <v Kip>They were thugs but uh good for helen, though, sticking up like she's fearless she really is.
00:26:40 --> 00:26:47 <v Amanda>What a badass, yeah, like the fact that even like after everything, like let's just again take it back to that.
00:26:47 --> 00:26:48 <v Amanda>She sees you a bit.
00:26:48 --> 00:27:05 <v Amanda>She is the one the last time they talked about I'm assuming one of the last times they would have talked about Anthony was that big dramatic scene where she, he, she threw his keys or whatever and clearly made it very clear that he, she didn't want to hear about it, she didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
00:27:05 --> 00:27:06 <v Amanda>She didn't want any of that.
00:27:06 --> 00:27:09 <v Amanda>Yet when this happens, she's still right by his side.
00:27:09 --> 00:27:17 <v Kip>Yeah, Like she's not like.
00:27:17 --> 00:27:19 <v Amanda>Well, you shouldn't like well, you shouldn't be you shouldn't care about that.
00:27:19 --> 00:27:20 <v Amanda>You shouldn't go to his funeral.
00:27:20 --> 00:27:21 <v Amanda>He was an asshole.
00:27:21 --> 00:27:21 <v Amanda>Like she's helped.
00:27:21 --> 00:27:22 <v Amanda>She wants him to get the closure right.
00:27:22 --> 00:27:23 <v Amanda>Yeah, exactly like she's so cool.
00:27:23 --> 00:27:23 <v Amanda>I'm confused, though, about like.
00:27:23 --> 00:27:40 <v Amanda>So john and helen planned the funeral apparently yeah and like no one knows, there's no body in the casket, like I don't oh yeah like I'm just kind of confused as to the logistics, like I thought the funeral was also like kind of bought by Tony.
00:27:40 --> 00:27:45 <v Kip>Maybe that's why they cut that scene, maybe Because it does take away a bit of the realism.
00:27:45 --> 00:27:50 <v Kip>Because like yeah like if you're planning the funeral, you would know.
00:27:50 --> 00:27:59 <v Amanda>Because I even asked Teresa when we were watching it, because me and Teresa do not always watch them together it's actually it's very rare that we do and, uh, because we just have different processes.
00:27:59 --> 00:28:05 <v Amanda>Um, but I did say to her I'm like who like planned this?
00:28:05 --> 00:28:07 <v Amanda>Like who's the guy like standing at the back?
00:28:07 --> 00:28:09 <v Amanda>Was that like a funeral worker or?
00:28:09 --> 00:28:13 <v Kip>was it anthony cooper's like butler, like I thought it was maybe like his like attorney or something.
00:28:13 --> 00:28:15 <v Kip>Yeah, something like that and it's like butler, like I thought it was maybe like his like attorney or something, yeah, something like that.
00:28:15 --> 00:28:17 <v Amanda>And it's like so who's planning this?
00:28:17 --> 00:28:28 <v Amanda>Because I also kind of got the impression because the facilitator or whatever pre I don't know what it was, but priest I guess, because he threw the water at some point says to John like John, did you want to say something?
00:28:28 --> 00:28:32 <v Amanda>So it does make me feel like John was involved in the planning.
00:28:32 --> 00:28:32 <v Kip>Yeah.
00:28:33 --> 00:28:38 <v Amanda>But then I feel like at some point, if there was real planning going on, someone would have been like there's no body.
00:28:39 --> 00:28:40 <v Kip>Exactly.
00:28:41 --> 00:28:42 <v Amanda>So I'm a little bit confused by that.
00:28:43 --> 00:29:10 <v Kip>So, whatever, it doesn't really matter other than to just kind of add to this like idea that, like Helen was very supportive whatever ended up happening and if they planned it, then she was even more supportive than we've already been giving her credit for yeah, exactly, which just makes it all the more you know horrible to see him lie to her and and like, for God's sake, when he gets down to propose, it's like John, now is not the time you idiot.
00:29:10 --> 00:29:11 <v Theresa>Oh, I know that was the worst time to do that.
00:29:11 --> 00:29:12 <v Theresa>You're so stupid.
00:29:12 --> 00:29:13 <v Theresa>Don't leave me.
00:29:13 --> 00:29:14 <v Theresa>I'm proposing.
00:29:15 --> 00:29:16 <v Kip>Yeah, no, she is not in the mood.
00:29:16 --> 00:29:20 <v Theresa>No, this is not romantic, Like so unromantic yeah.
00:29:21 --> 00:29:26 <v Kip>How cool was that when we got a little glimpse of Nadia A little connection, that was cool.
00:29:26 --> 00:29:29 <v Kip>A little connection John's a home inspector also, apparently.
00:29:30 --> 00:29:32 <v Theresa>He has a lot of odd jobs, yeah, so apparently, he has a lot of odd jobs.
00:29:32 --> 00:29:37 <v Kip>Yeah Well, that's one thing about him, like he's a very random, unsettled man.
00:29:38 --> 00:29:47 <v Amanda>You know, I don't know if anyone else experiences this like, and not even just talking to the two of you, but like kind of out into our listenership as well.
00:29:47 --> 00:29:55 <v Amanda>But for those who are rewatching it or have watched it multiple times, I don't know if you guys experienced this, but it's almost harder knowing everything.
00:29:55 --> 00:30:05 <v Amanda>Remember, you don't remember everything, but knowing so much, knowing where, like, we're kind of at with things, like while we're watching, because when you watch it for the first time, what you don't, you don't know, what you don't know.
00:30:05 --> 00:30:11 <v Amanda>And this time it's like we can even say to ourselves like where is this ad in the nadia saeed journey?
00:30:11 --> 00:30:14 <v Amanda>Yeah, and I can't really remember, but I'm like, am I supposed to remember?
00:30:14 --> 00:30:23 <v Amanda>And same with like even Teresa was saying while we're watching it, she's like at first she was like oh, when did he go from being a box salesman to this?
00:30:23 --> 00:30:26 <v Amanda>I'm like, well, technically he went from this to a box salesman.
00:30:26 --> 00:30:31 <v Amanda>And then her thing was like oh, yeah, he's still in a wheelchair or he was in a wheelchair.
00:30:31 --> 00:30:54 <v Amanda>Then I'm like, yeah, and for me, I remembered that he was calling the sex line for helen yes um, but either way, it was like yes, yeah, exactly whoa yeah, because he's still because he's still very much totally forgot about exactly right so it's like this weird thing where, like you went to sex worker, I went to wheelchair yeah, well, I just because I remember that being so sad and then because you don't know who she is.
00:30:54 --> 00:31:11 <v Amanda>Yeah, when you first see that storyline and you just think he's kind of like this weirdo, that's kind of like I don't know, like just wants to give her a specific name yeah which you know, I shouldn't say weirdo, like people have what they have and they like what they like, but it's actually meaningful to him, which might make it weirder.
00:31:11 --> 00:31:24 <v Amanda>I'm not sure actually, but like it's like, almost it's so much sadder, right when it's like oh, he's not just like some into some sort of like weird sex kink, which is like totally fine, he's like pining after this woman that like completely hung up on her right.
00:31:24 --> 00:31:31 <v Amanda>So but the nadia thing is kind of funny because I'm like how much do we know about nadia when we see her at this point?
00:31:31 --> 00:31:33 <v Kip>well, I was trying to think that.
00:31:33 --> 00:31:37 <v Kip>So like we don't really know that much, no.
00:31:37 --> 00:31:40 <v Kip>Because from one of Saeed's flashbacks he was headed.
00:31:40 --> 00:31:43 <v Kip>That's why he was headed to LA, because Nadia was in LA.
00:31:43 --> 00:31:48 <v Kip>We have no idea how long she's been there, we don't know anything about her really.
00:31:48 --> 00:31:56 <v Kip>It was very random and I think it was just one of those doesn't necessarily mean anything more than it's just like.
00:31:56 --> 00:32:08 <v Kip>Here's a random connection which they love to throw in there, cause it also drove people wild trying to create connections when it was possibly just like a little Easter egg type thing.
00:32:09 --> 00:32:16 <v Amanda>Yeah, Like, especially as the mystery builds, people really hold on to those like well, Nadia knew Locke.
00:32:16 --> 00:32:16 <v Kip>Yeah.
00:32:16 --> 00:32:21 <v Amanda>And Shannon's dad is the one who got in the accident with Jack's wife.
00:32:21 --> 00:32:23 <v Amanda>So what does that?
00:32:23 --> 00:32:30 <v Kip>mean, yeah, it was all these connections, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they're bigger than just that.
00:32:30 --> 00:32:39 <v Kip>Yeah, but speaking of mystery, well, it's a little early, but the mural was a huge mystery thing from this episode.
00:32:39 --> 00:32:40 <v Amanda>Well, let's talk about it, yeah.
00:32:40 --> 00:32:41 <v Kip>Okay, the mural.
00:32:41 --> 00:32:44 <v Kip>What did you think when you saw the mural?
00:32:45 --> 00:32:46 <v Theresa>I thought stranger danger.
00:32:46 --> 00:32:50 <v Theresa>Who drew that there?
00:32:50 --> 00:32:52 <v Theresa>Yeah, who put it there?
00:32:52 --> 00:32:54 <v Theresa>Were those black lights always meant to be there?
00:32:54 --> 00:32:57 <v Theresa>Did someone ask for black lights to get put in at some point?
00:32:57 --> 00:33:00 <v Theresa>I don't know what's in the middle.
00:33:00 --> 00:33:13 <v Theresa>It says I am here, and then there's an arrow and then little things and they all point to the middle with a big question mark and I was like, no, no, sir.
00:33:15 --> 00:33:16 <v Kip>What did you think of that?
00:33:17 --> 00:33:19 <v Theresa>I don't know I just you didn't.
00:33:19 --> 00:33:21 <v Theresa>You didn't have that same freak out.
00:33:22 --> 00:33:32 <v Amanda>No, but again, I think it's just like everything down there is weird, Like I don't know that there's anything that could really happen down there at this point, that I'd be like that's weird.
00:33:32 --> 00:33:35 <v Amanda>I think the weirdest thing that happened down there is that Henry, that I'd be like that's weird.
00:33:35 --> 00:33:37 <v Amanda>I think the weirdest thing that happened down there is that Henry can climb two steps.
00:33:38 --> 00:33:39 <v Kip>Yeah, without falling.
00:33:39 --> 00:33:40 <v Theresa>Without falling.
00:33:40 --> 00:33:41 <v Theresa>He's injured mind you.
00:33:42 --> 00:33:43 <v Kip>Yeah, he does have his arm in a sling.
00:33:43 --> 00:33:44 <v Theresa>That's true.
00:33:45 --> 00:33:46 <v Kip>No, the mural was like.
00:33:46 --> 00:33:48 <v Kip>You barely see it.
00:33:48 --> 00:33:50 <v Kip>So, yeah, you only get a couple glimpses.
00:33:50 --> 00:33:56 <v Kip>We do find out how it comes to be there Really.
00:33:56 --> 00:34:00 <v Kip>Yeah, I don't remember anything.
00:34:01 --> 00:34:03 <v Kip>But so, yeah, we do find out how it comes to be there.
00:34:03 --> 00:34:14 <v Kip>But yeah, I remember just it was a huge thing where people would take screen grabs and it was all over the internet trying to like figure out what it meant, trying to like analyze it further.
00:34:14 --> 00:34:37 <v Kip>It was a massive mystery piece of lost for quite some time, because I don't think we see it again until season, actually it might be no, I I think season three, oh okay, might even be this season.
00:34:38 --> 00:34:38 <v Theresa>Really.
00:34:38 --> 00:34:46 <v Kip>Actually, I can't remember, I really don't remember, but yeah, it was cool, though it was a little freaky though, because the black lights.
00:34:46 --> 00:34:50 <v Kip>Why are there black lights and where did that come from?
00:34:50 --> 00:34:54 <v Theresa>And then, of course, when the thing goes up, then you see the other mural that's on the wall.
00:34:54 --> 00:35:01 <v Theresa>Oh yeah, that's all just a bunch of random pictures and it says 108 in the middle and you're like, yeah, who's making these murals?
00:35:01 --> 00:35:02 <v Kip>People who are going crazy.
00:35:02 --> 00:35:11 <v Amanda>I was going to say I, that's all I thought it was was like whoever was there before like Desmond, but whoever was there before Desmond?
00:35:11 --> 00:35:15 <v Amanda>Like I just thought it was like ramblings of a crazy person.
00:35:16 --> 00:35:20 <v Kip>Because I mean you got to think Dharma Initiative, a lot of that stuff.
00:35:20 --> 00:35:24 <v Kip>It looks like it's been there since at least the 50s or 60s or something like that.
00:35:24 --> 00:35:28 <v Kip>So it's been a lot of people down there pushing that button and probably going nutty.
00:35:29 --> 00:35:33 <v Theresa>That's true With their blacklight and their blacklight paint markers.
00:35:37 --> 00:35:39 <v Amanda>I mean that is very specific, but yeah, it was.
00:35:39 --> 00:35:42 <v Amanda>So let's work our way back though.
00:35:42 --> 00:35:44 <v Amanda>What's happening that we even get to this point.
00:35:45 --> 00:35:48 <v Kip>OK, so I mean John.
00:35:53 --> 00:35:55 <v Amanda>Jonathan, which it's not short for Jonathanathan.
00:35:55 --> 00:35:57 <v Amanda>No, it's not, no, it's just john.
00:35:57 --> 00:36:05 <v Amanda>People, particularly around that vintage, I would say their name is just john, it's not short for anything oh, I thought it was jonathan, that's.
00:36:05 --> 00:36:16 <v Kip>I was like jonathan jonathan john lock, um, which is just john, he, he just is so disappointing, I don't know.
00:36:16 --> 00:36:21 <v Kip>Also, henry Gale was super fricking, annoying that little duo.
00:36:21 --> 00:36:34 <v Amanda>I could do without, yeah, and Jack too at times, like when he was doing the poker which we'll get to great, but at this point I don't even like blame Henry for like poking at them because it's so easy.
00:36:34 --> 00:36:42 <v Amanda>Oh exactly Like even at the end, like again going all over the place when oh never mind.
00:36:42 --> 00:36:42 <v Amanda>This.
00:36:42 --> 00:36:44 <v Amanda>We can never do this again.
00:36:44 --> 00:36:45 <v Amanda>I told you.
00:36:45 --> 00:36:46 <v Amanda>I told you to turn it off.
00:36:46 --> 00:36:50 <v Amanda>In the beginning of next episode, jack's a really big dick to John.
00:36:51 --> 00:36:52 <v Amanda>Yeah, we can't do that ever again.
00:36:52 --> 00:36:54 <v Amanda>You're right, teresa was right, I was wrong.
00:36:55 --> 00:36:56 <v Theresa>Because they blend together.
00:36:57 --> 00:36:59 <v Amanda>That's why we never do this, that's why this is rare.
00:37:00 --> 00:37:02 <v Theresa>But anyway, the point is that she settled in after the episode.
00:37:02 --> 00:37:04 <v Theresa>She's like I need to know what happened.
00:37:04 --> 00:37:07 <v Amanda>Why I really wanted to know how they were going to treat Henry.
00:37:07 --> 00:37:08 <v Amanda>Gale.
00:37:08 --> 00:37:16 <v Amanda>Anyway, the point is that Jack is rude to Locke a lot of the time and in front of other people, which I don't think is necessary.
00:37:16 --> 00:37:21 <v Amanda>Um, so then, even right, he's like why do you let him talk to you like that?
00:37:22 --> 00:37:28 <v Kip>yeah and then john's already pissed oh, he just like he gets his, like he's got such a temper.
00:37:28 --> 00:37:46 <v Kip>Well, yeah, and he was in anger management, but he just lets his temper get to him, crashing shit around and locking stuff up and pulling them over and everything, and even like when the beeping is going on and he's like yelling at Henry Gale, like shut up, shut up.
00:37:46 --> 00:37:48 <v Kip>Like just ignore him.
00:37:48 --> 00:37:58 <v Theresa>I mean I will say I was saying the same thing, because he wouldn't stop speaking.
00:37:58 --> 00:37:59 <v Theresa>And I just find henry gale so like his.
00:37:59 --> 00:38:03 <v Theresa>Everything about him is so grating, because I just don't trust him.
00:38:03 --> 00:38:14 <v Kip>So when he speaks I'm immediately like can we go uh, spoiler talk for a sec okay, so um is it a spoiler for me, or a spoiler for everybody else?
00:38:14 --> 00:38:16 <v Kip>No, no, it's just sort of I want to get your opinion on.
00:38:16 --> 00:38:26 <v Kip>So we know it's Ben, so why do you think he was being so crazy in this episode?
00:38:26 --> 00:38:30 <v Kip>Do you think he was nervous of what they might find at the balloon?
00:38:30 --> 00:38:42 <v Kip>Or do you think he was just really trying to, like, get John on his side, like he kind of does manipulate him into being like you'll protect me, right If I help you, but like why do you think he was so nutso?
00:38:43 --> 00:38:50 <v Amanda>I just don't understand why I don't know he would send them to the balloon.
00:38:50 --> 00:38:54 <v Amanda>Like did he just honestly not think they would dig up the grave?
00:38:54 --> 00:38:56 <v Theresa>To be honest, I think that's what it is.
00:38:56 --> 00:39:00 <v Amanda>Yeah, and he's like okay they'll go, they'll see a grave, they'll see the balloon.
00:39:00 --> 00:39:03 <v Theresa>They'll see the balloon and it'll like add up to what I said.
00:39:03 --> 00:39:06 <v Theresa>Good enough, and I led them there, so the trust piece is already in there.
00:39:06 --> 00:39:11 <v Amanda>So he was like I'll just say that, like again, this is spoiler alert.
00:39:11 --> 00:39:17 <v Amanda>What you like ultimately learn about Ben.
00:39:17 --> 00:39:24 <v Amanda>Any sort of misstep that would lead him to where he's at right now seems unlikely.
00:39:30 --> 00:39:31 <v Kip>Like, unless this is always where he wanted them to be.
00:39:31 --> 00:39:44 <v Kip>It's funny you say that because there's a lot of a talk about that, because, kind of, going back to, the producers didn't quite know what they were going to do with him because originally he was a three episode character, right.
00:39:44 --> 00:39:56 <v Kip>So it makes sense in that realm where, like he's going to be, I don't know what their plan was if it was to kill him or whatever, but he was only sticking around for three episodes so he could pull this ruse on them.
00:39:56 --> 00:40:07 <v Kip>But then, absolutely, when he becomes Ben, the leader of the others, who's this ridiculously smart, manipulative person who would never end up in a situation like that?
00:40:07 --> 00:40:45 <v Amanda>that kind of falls apart a little bit, like it doesn't make sense that he would be there but even just like the little bits we've seen of like him being like, oh, you know, I can't remember exactly, but when, like he's kind of like played them kind of off each other like very coyly even that like kind of coy nature of his like it, just I just feel like there was something like yeah, I guess that the easy answer is he just didn't understand the depths of their depravity and like desperation that they would dig up a grave yeah and that, yeah, he'd go there, they'd see a balloon, they'd see a grave.
00:40:45 --> 00:40:47 <v Amanda>Be like there's the wife, there's a balloon.
00:40:47 --> 00:40:50 <v Amanda>All right, henry gale's henry gale, let's go back.
00:40:50 --> 00:40:54 <v Amanda>But in general, I'm not sure what his game plan is here.
00:40:55 --> 00:41:02 <v Kip>Well, it does come out in, I don't think next episode, but the one after that.
00:41:02 --> 00:41:06 <v Kip>I think it does with why he was there supposedly.
00:41:10 --> 00:41:19 <v Amanda>I just and leading into next episode too how quickly he gets when he gets trapped and stuff, how quickly he can like shift gears like it.
00:41:19 --> 00:41:29 <v Amanda>He's a creepy creepy guy like, but yeah, I don't um in terms of why he was acting crazy in this episode, was he?
00:41:31 --> 00:41:36 <v Kip>I felt like he was like the, the last we've seen, or mostly what we've seen him.
00:41:36 --> 00:41:46 <v Kip>He's been very like calm, cool, like sort of in control, even though he's imprisoned and being beaten up and everything.
00:41:46 --> 00:41:55 <v Kip>But he seems to be sort of like able to manipulate the situation and this he seems in this episode he seems to be losing, it being like what's going on?
00:41:55 --> 00:41:56 <v Kip>What's happening, john?
00:41:56 --> 00:41:59 <v Kip>Talk to me, john, what's going on, you know?
00:41:59 --> 00:42:01 <v Kip>And like fill me in, let me out, let me out.
00:42:01 --> 00:42:06 <v Kip>Like it was just kind of felt different than the last few episodes yeah, I see what you mean.
00:42:06 --> 00:42:14 <v Amanda>Like it seemed like even if he was in kind of like a crisis, he'd just be kind of like let's watch the world burn yeah and not so much, but I wonder if it's just like he has.
00:42:14 --> 00:42:22 <v Amanda>No, he's also just like what's happening maybe he doesn't know, I have no control over this, like you know, stuff like that I don't.
00:42:22 --> 00:42:27 <v Amanda>Or did he see it as a chance to build john's trust?
00:42:27 --> 00:42:33 <v Amanda>that's maybe what I'm thinking right and like kind of like you said, because he knew he like, who knows, there was still some level of like.
00:42:33 --> 00:42:40 <v Amanda>You know, maybe something will go wrong with them finding the balloon, or maybe they won't find it and they'll think I sent them on a wild goose chase or whatever.
00:42:40 --> 00:42:44 <v Amanda>So yeah, like getting at least john on my side might work and this is a good opportunity.
00:42:44 --> 00:42:49 <v Amanda>I don't know, I think like it has to kind of be all that right, yeah, and speaking of that, like john, why?
00:42:49 --> 00:42:54 <v Kip>why would you ever promise to protect him, no matter what?
00:42:54 --> 00:42:55 <v Kip>Like?
00:42:55 --> 00:42:55 <v Theresa>what an?
00:42:55 --> 00:42:58 <v Kip>idiot absolutely why would you say that?
00:42:58 --> 00:43:03 <v Theresa>of all the things for god's sake you know that he could be lying about who?
00:43:03 --> 00:43:03 <v Kip>he is exactly.
00:43:03 --> 00:43:07 <v Theresa>You know that he's been manipulating you guys at every turn.
00:43:07 --> 00:43:09 <v Theresa>So to even entertain?
00:43:09 --> 00:43:11 <v Theresa>That is insane to me.
00:43:12 --> 00:43:16 <v Kip>Yeah, another misstep by Jonathan Locke.
00:43:18 --> 00:43:18 <v Amanda>Mm-hmm.
00:43:18 --> 00:43:24 <v Amanda>But that just again proves how John goes.
00:43:24 --> 00:43:37 <v Amanda>He is so tunnel vision and we see that so much of the island for John in particular, for a lot of them, but particularly for John, like for john in particular, like for a lot of them, but particularly for john so much of the like on island persona he has.
00:43:37 --> 00:43:43 <v Amanda>Is this like great answer to all of his missteps or flaws or mistakes off island?
00:43:43 --> 00:43:50 <v Amanda>Right, he's like reinventing himself and he thinks this is his second chance, but there's still like it kind of goes to show like without doing the work, you can't really outrun yourself.
00:43:50 --> 00:43:55 <v Amanda>Yeah, because he's still tunnel vision.
00:43:55 --> 00:43:57 <v Amanda>It's just now, instead of on anthony cooper.
00:43:57 --> 00:44:02 <v Amanda>Yeah, it's this fucking hatch exactly, yeah and like, and I think that's what it is.
00:44:02 --> 00:44:14 <v Amanda>I think, like when anything comes up with it or whatever this his destiny or his purpose or whatever he sees, he has such tunnel vision that he like, yeah, he'll just be like, okay, okay, this is not right, I need help.
00:44:14 --> 00:44:17 <v Amanda>And I got to get to the hatch, I got to get this, I have to do this.
00:44:17 --> 00:44:19 <v Amanda>And then he's like okay, yeah, I'll agree to anything.
00:44:19 --> 00:44:22 <v Kip>Yeah, exactly, yeah Right, just like that's no different.
00:44:22 --> 00:44:24 <v Amanda>You're no different than the guy who.
00:44:26 --> 00:44:30 <v Kip>Although, like we said before, it rarely is.
00:44:30 --> 00:44:47 <v Kip>It's the trend, though, I think, with the characters Like their episodes, it almost shows us the worst in them, and they're usually better in the non-focused episodes, when they're just sort of in the B-plot or whatever.
00:44:50 --> 00:44:52 <v Amanda>Yeah, Speaking of B-plot let's get into it.
00:44:52 --> 00:44:52 <v Amanda>That's a good one.
00:44:53 --> 00:44:54 <v Kip>What did you think about the poker?
00:44:54 --> 00:44:54 <v Amanda>game.
00:44:54 --> 00:44:55 <v Amanda>It was funny.
00:44:55 --> 00:44:56 <v Amanda>Yeah, it was, it was fun Light.
00:44:57 --> 00:44:58 <v Kip>I agree.
00:45:04 --> 00:45:07 <v Amanda>Except I'm going to be honest with you I loved every single moment of it, except for where'd you learn how to play poker?
00:45:07 --> 00:45:10 <v Amanda>Phuket Never mention Thailand again, jack.
00:45:10 --> 00:45:12 <v Amanda>Never mention Thailand again.
00:45:12 --> 00:45:13 <v Theresa>Why.
00:45:14 --> 00:45:16 <v Amanda>Because Never mention Thailand again, Jack Never mention Thailand again.
00:45:16 --> 00:45:16 <v Amanda>Why?
00:45:16 --> 00:45:17 <v Amanda>Because it leads to a fireplace.
00:45:17 --> 00:45:21 <v Amanda>I wish he had said anything other than Phuket.
00:45:21 --> 00:45:25 <v Kip>Well, they laid that groundwork there, hey, so is that where you got them tattoos?
00:45:25 --> 00:45:27 <v Kip>They lay in that groundwork.
00:45:27 --> 00:45:39 <v Amanda>And anyone who's seen the show knows what we're talking about, and anyone who hasn't, I'm so sorry in advance yeah, it's brutal, oh man, it was it was cute.
00:45:39 --> 00:45:53 <v Kip>It was funny when what like jack kind of looks surprised, like what you don't think I know where thailand is like, yeah, why phuket is like a pretty well-known city yeah, I mean, and that just goes to show, jack does think Sawyer is an idiot.
00:45:53 --> 00:45:54 <v Kip>Yeah, yeah.
00:45:55 --> 00:46:00 <v Amanda>And Sawyer is not an idiot, although, jack condom or kind of played him, played him.
00:46:00 --> 00:46:02 <v Kip>Yeah, he got him good.
00:46:02 --> 00:46:02 <v Amanda>I do.
00:46:02 --> 00:46:06 <v Amanda>I do find it interesting that Jack was so that it's.
00:46:06 --> 00:46:07 <v Amanda>It's an interesting scene.
00:46:07 --> 00:46:13 <v Amanda>So Hurley and Kate and Jack are, or and Sawyer are playing, and then Jack hands up.
00:46:13 --> 00:46:23 <v Amanda>He's like you had this, he has this, and blah, blah, blah, and it's like and then they play and he's so good, and he ends up beating him and all this stuff and like, great he, he went to Thailand, he learned how to play poker.
00:46:23 --> 00:46:28 <v Amanda>Could do you really think Jack?
00:46:29 --> 00:46:30 <v Kip>yeah, I don't know.
00:46:30 --> 00:46:33 <v Kip>I don't have any reason to believe sawyer is this amazing poker player?
00:46:33 --> 00:46:50 <v Amanda>well, but there's a layer of it that is like that, like con type, right, like the ability to con people is not that different than their, your ability to kind of like get to them through like a poker game yeah like I feel like the the poker face piece of it and the like playing people piece of it.
00:46:51 --> 00:47:02 <v Amanda>I just I don't know, like jack's like just too good at everything, like and maybe it is like sawyer's hubris and whatever, but I just I don't know.
00:47:02 --> 00:47:07 <v Amanda>It was a little bit like I liked it because I just like when jack gets the best of sawyer anyway.
00:47:07 --> 00:47:17 <v Amanda>But I wonder if a part of it was just like that's where it wasn't like he wasn't at his best because he was like he lets jack get to him.
00:47:17 --> 00:47:17 <v Amanda>I think so.
00:47:17 --> 00:47:23 <v Kip>I think he wasn't playing his best either, because there was people watching and jack kind of calls him out on that too.
00:47:23 --> 00:47:30 <v Kip>He doesn't want to look the fool, and so he's, in his own mind as well, being like oh great, whatever I got myself into.
00:47:30 --> 00:47:40 <v Kip>And when he loses initially, and then he becomes obsessed with wanting to get his fruit pile back that's pretty funny it was hilarious, huge.
00:47:40 --> 00:47:46 <v Kip>I can't believe you guys liked that line of when I want the guns it's the way he says it.
00:47:47 --> 00:47:50 <v Kip>I was like oh god I was like no, I didn't like that.
00:47:50 --> 00:47:59 <v Amanda>I liked it a lot, but I think it's true, right like well it was so arrogant, it was very arrogant.
00:48:00 --> 00:48:01 <v Theresa>So that's not lost on me.
00:48:01 --> 00:48:03 <v Amanda>I'm not like, oh my god, he's so.
00:48:03 --> 00:48:09 <v Amanda>No, it's not lost on me that it's arrogant, but like I like how it comes.
00:48:09 --> 00:48:18 <v Amanda>Like this whole thing came out of this the fact that Libby needed that, that Libby needed neosporin or whatever, and so he's like I'm not going to let this guy fuck around with the medicine anymore.
00:48:18 --> 00:48:24 <v Amanda>I also think it's really funny because as soon as he said to him, do you even know what amoxicillin was?
00:48:24 --> 00:48:28 <v Amanda>I actually thought in my mind I'm like Sawyer knows what amoxicillin is.
00:48:29 --> 00:48:36 <v Amanda>Sawyer's had amoxicillin prescribed to him a few times in life soyer's had amoxicillin prescribed to him a few times in life and then he makes the own joke.
00:48:36 --> 00:48:50 <v Amanda>Yeah, I'm glad we made that joke, because that is exactly very true, that was funny, but wanting the medicine back and getting it back in that moment makes sense to me, because that is, I think, more so it is arrogant, but I I think that's how jack's brain works, so I didn't see it as just arrogant and just trying to be showy.
00:48:50 --> 00:48:55 <v Amanda>I actually do truly think he's like when I need the guns, I'll find a way to get the guns.
00:48:55 --> 00:48:59 <v Theresa>Right now, I need the medicine I found a way to get the medicine one track mind right like.
00:49:00 --> 00:49:08 <v Amanda>So, yeah, I'm not gonna just go for the like, because it wasn't so much that he saw poker as like an opportunity to take advantage of sawyer.
00:49:08 --> 00:49:17 <v Amanda>He saw the poker game as an opportunity to get the medicine, exactly, whereas sawyer thinks like that, right, he thinks he's found a weakness in someone that he's going to exploit.
00:49:17 --> 00:49:25 <v Amanda>Yeah, jack, and this is why jack's great, right, because and at the end we criticize these characters a lot but jack, I have a funko pop of jack.
00:49:25 --> 00:49:25 <v Amanda>I love jack.
00:49:25 --> 00:49:28 <v Amanda>Um, he has.
00:49:28 --> 00:49:31 <v Amanda>He isn't like that, like he doesn't think like that.
00:49:31 --> 00:49:31 <v Amanda>Sawyer would.
00:49:31 --> 00:49:36 <v Amanda>Sawyer and kate to some degree, and even some of the other characters would be like charlie, etc.
00:49:36 --> 00:49:38 <v Amanda>Would be like how do I exploit this for maximum gain?
00:49:38 --> 00:49:43 <v Amanda>Yeah, and jack comes into a situation and is like I need something and this is how I can get it.
00:49:43 --> 00:49:47 <v Amanda>I'm gonna do exactly what I need to do to get what I need just in that moment, just what I need.
00:49:47 --> 00:49:48 <v Kip>And so when he said, when I.
00:49:48 --> 00:49:49 <v Amanda>So that's what he did here.
00:49:49 --> 00:49:53 <v Amanda>He needed, needed something, he got it, and so I think it has an arrogant twinge to it.
00:49:53 --> 00:49:59 <v Amanda>But I do actually think he just legitimately means I don't need the guns right now, I need the medicine, and when I need the guns I'll get the guns.
00:50:01 --> 00:50:03 <v Kip>Was last week maternity leave.
00:50:04 --> 00:50:04 <v Amanda>No.
00:50:04 --> 00:50:09 <v Amanda>Last week was the whole truth with son's pregnancy.
00:50:11 --> 00:50:18 <v Kip>I guess it was just to get the idea of the medicine thing when Claire came up to Jack being like can you look at Aaron?
00:50:18 --> 00:50:20 <v Kip>Yeah, I was like wait, was that just last week?
00:50:20 --> 00:50:21 <v Kip>No, it wasn't.
00:50:21 --> 00:50:23 <v Amanda>I think it was to remind us that he's a doctor.
00:50:23 --> 00:50:23 <v Kip>Yeah.
00:50:24 --> 00:50:33 <v Amanda>Well, I mean, if we're we're getting kind of towards the end here, I think we have to talk about the Henry Gale in the room.
00:50:33 --> 00:50:34 <v Kip>Yeah.
00:50:35 --> 00:50:35 <v Amanda>Okay.
00:50:36 --> 00:50:38 <v Theresa>Or the lack of Henry Gale in the room.
00:50:38 --> 00:50:40 <v Kip>Yeah, yeah, ooh, that was good.
00:50:41 --> 00:50:47 <v Amanda>So can you actually pass me the synopsis book for a sec, unless someone knows off the top of their head?
00:50:47 --> 00:50:48 <v Theresa>You didn't ask the question.
00:50:49 --> 00:50:50 <v Amanda>When we first saw Henry Gale.
00:50:51 --> 00:50:52 <v Theresa>Oh, I have no idea.
00:50:52 --> 00:51:05 <v Theresa>It was a while ago so walks into their camp.
00:51:05 --> 00:51:06 <v Amanda>It was um one of them, episode 14.
00:51:06 --> 00:51:08 <v Amanda>So we are four episodes.
00:51:08 --> 00:51:32 <v Amanda>It felt longer I was gonna say it felt longer, yeah, way longer but so we, we, we were four episodes in and we're just finding out they, they like definitely, uh, stretched that out yeah, but in a way that kind of made sense, it seemed plausible, um, and I think they did it.
00:51:32 --> 00:51:35 <v Amanda>It wasn't too long, like to the point where, like okay, what's going on here?
00:51:35 --> 00:51:37 <v Amanda>They gave like a little bit here and there.
00:51:37 --> 00:51:42 <v Amanda>But I think that now it's like, oh my god, we finally know.
00:51:42 --> 00:51:43 <v Amanda>He's not who he says he is.
00:51:43 --> 00:51:53 <v Amanda>But then it's like in that same moment of like getting an answer, it asks like 20 questions exactly right, because if he's not henry gale, who is he?
00:51:53 --> 00:51:54 <v Amanda>Who the hell?
00:51:55 --> 00:51:55 <v Kip>is he?
00:51:55 --> 00:51:55 <v Kip>Why is he here?
00:51:57 --> 00:52:17 <v Theresa>right yeah, that was so intense when saeed came in oh, yep, and they showed that driver's license yeah well, especially because it just starts so like subtle right there, like we found the balloon, we found the grave, and then he's like but I still didn't believe it yeah I was like, oh, my god, oh.
00:52:17 --> 00:52:19 <v Theresa>So I dug up the grave.
00:52:19 --> 00:52:20 <v Theresa>I'm like, wait what?
00:52:20 --> 00:52:24 <v Theresa>I beg your pardon, like what was?
00:52:24 --> 00:52:34 <v Kip>that scene with like charlie and, and this scene, so saeed's like I'm digging this up and they're like uh I know I can just see charlie being like okay, puts his hood on.
00:52:34 --> 00:52:36 <v Theresa>Like, here we go, charlie's back on.
00:52:36 --> 00:52:37 <v Amanda>Lucy is like.
00:52:37 --> 00:52:42 <v Amanda>He's like, I can only do this with my hood on one second, please, exactly.
00:52:42 --> 00:52:51 <v Amanda>And anna lucy is like well, I've done worse, I've done better, I've done worse, um, but yeah.
00:52:51 --> 00:53:00 <v Amanda>And right before that we see the most awkward scene between Kate and Jack, where it's like when he like made a walkie back to the beach.
00:53:00 --> 00:53:01 <v Kip>I want to shower.
00:53:02 --> 00:53:07 <v Amanda>Like, and even that that was such a weird scene Cause like I was so confused by it.
00:53:07 --> 00:53:12 <v Amanda>Like I don't know if they're just bad at acting these like romance scenes, but like I don't know.
00:53:12 --> 00:53:15 <v Amanda>Um, matthew Fox was on party of five.
00:53:15 --> 00:53:23 <v Amanda>Like you'd think he kind of had a few like romance-y type scenes there, but like I wasn't even sure what was going on between them at that scene.
00:53:23 --> 00:53:24 <v Amanda>Like I was like does he?
00:53:24 --> 00:53:28 <v Amanda>Is he telling her the plumbing's broken and is just trying to be like flirty and nice?
00:53:28 --> 00:53:30 <v Kip>or is it because he doesn't want her there?
00:53:30 --> 00:53:31 <v Kip>No, because she doesn't know about Henry Gale.
00:53:31 --> 00:53:34 <v Kip>So he's trying to keep her out of there.
00:53:34 --> 00:53:42 <v Kip>And then one of my favorite looks that Kate gives is when she sees this Henry Gale.
00:53:42 --> 00:53:43 <v Kip>She's got this most confused.
00:53:43 --> 00:53:45 <v Kip>Look on her face and it's hilarious.
00:53:45 --> 00:53:46 <v Kip>It's like what the fuck?
00:53:46 --> 00:53:50 <v Kip>Because, yeah, she didn't know she was not in the loop.
00:53:51 --> 00:53:52 <v Amanda>Yes, dude, there's one of the loops.
00:53:52 --> 00:53:53 <v Amanda>Yeah, didn't know she was not in the loop.
00:53:53 --> 00:53:54 <v Amanda>Oh yes, dude, there's one of the loops.
00:53:54 --> 00:53:56 <v Amanda>Yeah, but okay, that makes more sense, because I was like this is so awkward.
00:53:56 --> 00:53:59 <v Amanda>It seems like he doesn't want her there and then I guess that makes sense.
00:53:59 --> 00:54:02 <v Kip>Yeah, so then he's like I'll walk you back.
00:54:02 --> 00:54:10 <v Amanda>Yeah but then is he only offering to walk her back so that she won't follow him to the no, I think that was a genuine like uh, I still like to spend some time with you.
00:54:10 --> 00:54:12 <v Kip>Okay, I don, I don't know, they're just weird.
00:54:12 --> 00:54:19 <v Kip>And then they come across a huge drop of food, which is funny that you mentioned that.
00:54:19 --> 00:54:27 <v Kip>You saw the pantry was super empty, but which makes sense because they kind of had that big buffet thing and then now they get the food drop.
00:54:27 --> 00:54:29 <v Kip>I didn't even see, I didn't even think of that.
00:54:29 --> 00:54:30 <v Kip>Put that together like that.
00:54:31 --> 00:54:41 <v Amanda>Yeah, it's about time that they got some food, but so they get this food drop, which clearly means that the lockdown thing, happens because the food is on its way.
00:54:41 --> 00:54:42 <v Kip>Exactly yeah.
00:54:42 --> 00:54:48 <v Amanda>And they don't want the person to get out and either see who's dropping off the food or try, to like, convince them to take them with it.
00:54:48 --> 00:54:52 <v Kip>I don't know, I don't really know why they need the lockdown them with it.
00:54:52 --> 00:54:53 <v Amanda>I don't know, I don't really know why they need the lockdown.
00:54:53 --> 00:54:55 <v Amanda>Yeah, that's obviously the connection there, so that's interesting.
00:54:55 --> 00:55:01 <v Amanda>So now we see that they have this food drop and then it's well, they're at this food drop that yes, saeed and charlie and anna lucia.
00:55:01 --> 00:55:08 <v Amanda>So in the last like two minutes we're getting like all this, like lots happening information of like oh okay, what's happening?
00:55:08 --> 00:55:24 <v Theresa>yeah, but that henry gale reveal is so good epic epic and like kind of terrifying when you think about it, because someone buried him yeah you know what I mean, like, and then you start to wonder, like, okay, like, did you kill him?
00:55:24 --> 00:55:26 <v Theresa>Did you find him dead?
00:55:26 --> 00:55:33 <v Theresa>Did you just add just a whole bunch of other questions that you're just like, that you're left to wonder.
00:55:33 --> 00:55:37 <v Amanda>What I was mostly wondering when I watched it the first time, and even a little bit this time.
00:55:37 --> 00:55:41 <v Amanda>I'm like how are they going to ever find out what's real with this guy?
00:55:41 --> 00:56:00 <v Amanda>Yeah, like if he was able to, like obviously they were skeptical et cetera, but like he was able to lie and deceive with such ease, despite how much they were railing on him, despite everything, like I remember kind of feeling that like hopelessness of like they're never gonna be able to get anywhere with this guy.
00:56:00 --> 00:56:04 <v Amanda>Yeah, like I don't know, it's freaky it is freaky.
00:56:04 --> 00:56:12 <v Kip>He's gonna have to live in that little hole forever so let's, uh, let's hear how the characters fared this week.
00:56:13 --> 00:56:18 <v Theresa>Honestly, this episode was very stressful so it was very hard to give points.
00:56:18 --> 00:56:29 <v Theresa>But you guys got a little glimpse I mean you all got a little glimpse of how that works, which is just my feelings.
00:56:29 --> 00:56:32 <v Theresa>So, at number 16, we have Michael with a negative 830.
00:56:32 --> 00:56:36 <v Theresa>Then we have Charlie with negative 655.
00:56:36 --> 00:56:42 <v Theresa>Then at 14, we have Ana Lucia with negative 55.
00:56:42 --> 00:56:47 <v Theresa>Then everybody from now on is in the positives Kate at number 13, with 25.
00:56:47 --> 00:56:51 <v Theresa>Desmond at number 12 with 60.
00:56:51 --> 00:56:54 <v Theresa>Walt with 240.
00:56:54 --> 00:56:58 <v Theresa>Then, our top 10, we have Libby with 390.
00:56:58 --> 00:56:59 <v Theresa>Jack with 720.
00:56:59 --> 00:57:04 <v Theresa>Then we have Claire and Sawyer, tied for 780, or at 780.
00:57:04 --> 00:57:06 <v Theresa>Then we have Jin with 1170.
00:57:06 --> 00:57:10 <v Theresa>Then at number five, we have Echo with 1270.
00:57:10 --> 00:57:14 <v Theresa>Then we have Locke with 1520.
00:57:14 --> 00:57:21 <v Theresa>Our, our top three, we have saeed with 1580, sun with 1630 and then hurley, still at number one, with 1750.
00:57:21 --> 00:57:25 <v Theresa>Oh, nice.
00:57:25 --> 00:57:29 <v Amanda>I can't wait till sun takes a huge dive that's coming is it?
00:57:29 --> 00:57:31 <v Amanda>You know it is, you know it.
00:57:31 --> 00:57:31 <v Amanda>I don't know when.
00:57:31 --> 00:57:33 <v Amanda>Um me neither.
00:57:33 --> 00:57:40 <v Kip>I can't wait for michael to take another huge dive the worst part is like I.
00:57:40 --> 00:58:11 <v Theresa>Just for anyone who hasn't watched this, I want you to understand something michael gets so much worse oh god I don't even I know that it's coming soon I don't even remember so much worse oh my god, like he's gonna be like to a, like, a level that you're like oh, this might actually finally be worthy of the hate exactly, exactly, but that's really he's starting like he's going to take a dive, like from nothing to more nothing, yeah.
00:58:11 --> 00:58:15 <v Kip>But what's interesting is he's actually slowly built himself up.
00:58:16 --> 00:58:16 <v Amanda>Yeah.
00:58:16 --> 00:58:21 <v Kip>Like he was negative 1300 for 1500, maybe even for quite some time.
00:58:21 --> 00:58:23 <v Kip>Yeah, he's in the eight hundreds now.
00:58:23 --> 00:58:28 <v Amanda>Yeah, I can't wait till that takes a huge dive and that's sooner rather than later.
00:58:28 --> 00:58:31 <v Kip>Yeah, oh yeah, that's coming up, is it actually?
00:58:31 --> 00:58:31 <v Kip>Um?
00:58:34 --> 00:58:35 <v Theresa>I won't spoil it for you there, teresa, but I won't look at this.
00:58:35 --> 00:58:38 <v Theresa>I was gonna look at the synopses to figure out I'm not gonna do that um.
00:58:38 --> 00:58:42 <v Amanda>So we know what teresa's character rankings are overall okay.
00:58:42 --> 00:58:46 <v Amanda>So what are what's the mvp, lvp of kip's world, this episode?
00:58:46 --> 00:58:53 <v Kip>so for me, my mvp was jack um and my lvp was Henry Gale he just really annoyed me.
00:58:53 --> 00:58:54 <v Theresa>He was very annoying.
00:58:55 --> 00:59:03 <v Kip>And I love Henry Gale slash the real Henry Gale in the thing of the show.
00:59:03 --> 00:59:05 <v Kip>But this episode, oh, he just drove me crazy.
00:59:05 --> 00:59:08 <v Amanda>Henry Gale reminded me so much of a coworker today that I just can't.
00:59:09 --> 00:59:11 <v Kip>Oh, do all your coworkers listen to this.
00:59:11 --> 00:59:17 <v Kip>After I literally said, said man he just annoyed that oh no, but like yeah agreed that's what I mean.
00:59:17 --> 00:59:20 <v Kip>Your co-workers are gonna be like.
00:59:20 --> 00:59:21 <v Theresa>Which one is it?
00:59:21 --> 00:59:21 <v Theresa>I think?
00:59:21 --> 00:59:24 <v Amanda>like two of my co-workers, listen to this.
00:59:24 --> 00:59:38 <v Amanda>But you know, like that moment where, like someone will say or do something in a way that's like so spot on to someone in your life that you're like no alrighty, okay, so we've had our MVPs, we've had our.
00:59:39 --> 00:59:41 <v Kip>Oh no, we didn't get your MVP LVP no, I don't do it, you do that.
00:59:41 --> 00:59:44 <v Kip>I know, but I sometimes like to.
00:59:44 --> 00:59:50 <v Kip>I kind of want to know yours my MVP was probably Helen.
00:59:51 --> 00:59:54 <v Amanda>She's not a real character, but she kind of is that.
00:59:54 --> 00:59:55 <v Amanda>But that's my my.
00:59:55 --> 00:59:57 <v Amanda>My honorary mvp would be helen.
00:59:57 --> 01:00:12 <v Amanda>Um, but nice, I think I would say jack is also my mvp, and then my lvp for this one was actually lock nice, yeah, lockdown, I went between lock and henry.
01:00:12 --> 01:00:21 <v Amanda>Yeah, it was not a good, and when you think about well, anyway, how about I just give my ranking for the episode okay, and then I can explain what I was just gonna say yeah, do it I also think this is worth a nine.
01:00:21 --> 01:00:24 <v Amanda>I usually find myself to be pretty on par with imdb.
01:00:24 --> 01:00:37 <v Amanda>Uh, it's a great episode, but lock and henry gale are very annoying in it and what happens in the hatch is very silly.
01:00:37 --> 01:00:40 <v Amanda>Like it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
01:00:40 --> 01:00:45 <v Amanda>Like that tunnel vision of locks just it's a getting in the way again.
01:00:45 --> 01:00:48 <v Amanda>Like this obsession to push this button.
01:00:48 --> 01:00:49 <v Amanda>He's like almost destroyed his legs again.
01:00:49 --> 01:00:50 <v Amanda>He's trusting a person he shouldn't be trusting.
01:00:50 --> 01:00:50 <v Amanda>He's whatever.
01:00:50 --> 01:00:51 <v Amanda>So it's very silly, but all the other stuff was cool.
01:00:51 --> 01:00:52 <v Amanda>To push this button, he's like almost destroyed his legs again.
01:00:52 --> 01:00:54 <v Amanda>He is trusting a person he shouldn't be trusting.
01:00:54 --> 01:00:55 <v Amanda>He's whatever.
01:00:55 --> 01:00:58 <v Amanda>So it's very silly, but all the other stuff was cool.
01:00:58 --> 01:00:59 <v Amanda>I actually like the flashbacks.
01:00:59 --> 01:01:10 <v Amanda>I thought it was sad but interesting and that reveal at the end is like the 8.9 of the nine comes from the last four minutes of that episode.
01:01:10 --> 01:01:10 <v Kip>Teresa.
01:01:12 --> 01:01:13 <v Theresa>I also give it a nine.
01:01:13 --> 01:01:17 <v Theresa>It's a really good episode, super stressful, super.
01:01:17 --> 01:01:21 <v Theresa>It kind of left you on edge for a while.
01:01:21 --> 01:01:24 <v Theresa>There Bless you.
01:01:24 --> 01:01:45 <v Theresa>Similar feelings where it was a little like Henry Gale was very annoying and I found myself thinking walk down like a lot, you know, you know, you know when you're kind of like ah boo, except I would be like lockdown, one point, lockdown.
01:01:45 --> 01:01:47 <v Kip>I don't know what you're talking about.
01:01:47 --> 01:01:49 <v Kip>Okay, just cut it out, because no never.
01:01:50 --> 01:01:51 <v Amanda>It's terrible.
01:01:51 --> 01:01:52 <v Theresa>What do you mean when?
01:01:52 --> 01:02:08 <v Theresa>You're like like food, but you're like yeah but for him, because the episode is locked down so are you talking like as if, like he's a dog, like down like here we go again, yeah, like down enough and then he was physically down, are you?
01:02:08 --> 01:02:09 <v Amanda>drunk.
01:02:09 --> 01:02:09 <v Amanda>I'm so tired.
01:02:09 --> 01:02:10 <v Amanda>Level with me.
01:02:10 --> 01:02:10 <v Amanda>Have you been drinking?
01:02:10 --> 01:02:11 <v Amanda>No, I so tired.
01:02:11 --> 01:02:12 <v Amanda>Level with me.
01:02:12 --> 01:02:13 <v Amanda>Have you been drinking?
01:02:13 --> 01:02:14 <v Amanda>No, I'm tired.
01:02:15 --> 01:02:15 <v Kip>Oh man.
01:02:16 --> 01:02:19 <v Theresa>Anyway, just skip that all out, I don't think we can All to say.
01:02:19 --> 01:02:21 <v Theresa>I give it a nine.
01:02:21 --> 01:02:23 <v Theresa>I like that it was called Lockdown.
01:02:23 --> 01:02:25 <v Theresa>I was like Lockdown.
01:02:25 --> 01:02:25 <v Theresa>I was like.
01:02:25 --> 01:02:27 <v Theresa>I thought it was called Boo.
01:02:27 --> 01:02:31 <v Theresa>We're going to cut all of that out because it was terrible.
01:02:32 --> 01:02:33 <v Amanda>So nine out of ten of that out because it was terrible.
01:02:33 --> 01:02:35 <v Amanda>So nine, it's a nine, great it was a good episode.
01:02:35 --> 01:02:37 <v Theresa>Kept me on edge, made me uncomfortable.
01:02:37 --> 01:02:44 <v Theresa>The end reveal was really good the end uh, I'm gonna give it a.
01:02:46 --> 01:02:50 <v Kip>I think I'm gonna have to give it a, like an 8.5.
01:02:50 --> 01:02:59 <v Kip>Uh, it was a good episode and I think like the reveal at the end was like the best.
01:02:59 --> 01:03:03 <v Kip>I agree, amanda, I think the last like five minutes were the best part of the episode.
01:03:03 --> 01:03:14 <v Kip>But yeah, the flashbacks were really good, the on island stuff was good, the b plot was good, but I think 8.5, just because I I was sort of like frustrated a lot of it.
01:03:14 --> 01:03:16 <v Kip>But there we have it.
01:03:17 --> 01:03:18 <v Theresa>There we have it, there we have it.
01:03:18 --> 01:03:21 <v Kip>There, we have it there we have it Lock down.
01:03:21 --> 01:03:22 <v Theresa>No, lock down.
01:03:24 --> 01:03:25 <v Amanda>We're taking that out.
01:03:26 --> 01:03:28 <v Theresa>Just put it on the Patreon, just take it out of the episode.
01:03:28 --> 01:03:29 <v Amanda>How will we know?
01:03:29 --> 01:03:33 <v Amanda>I wanted to say boo, I was thinking lockdown, lockdown.
01:03:33 --> 01:03:36 <v Amanda>Boo, boo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, lockdown.
01:03:36 --> 01:03:39 <v Kip>I was so tired and I was like lockdown, Lockdown.
01:03:39 --> 01:03:40 <v Amanda>Lockdown.
01:03:40 --> 01:03:46 <v Amanda>Anyway, Trace is holding her rock now in comfort.
01:03:46 --> 01:03:48 <v Amanda>Yeah, you're just so mean to me.
01:03:48 --> 01:03:49 <v Amanda>I'm tired.
01:03:49 --> 01:03:51 <v Amanda>She needs a strong coffee.
01:03:51 --> 01:03:52 <v Amanda>I don't drink coffee.
01:03:52 --> 01:03:59 <v Amanda>she needs a strong coffee, strong coffee anyway, thanks everyone for listening to this week's episode of let's get lost.
01:03:59 --> 01:04:06 <v Amanda>It would be very great if you felt the need to rate us, to give us a five star rating on anywhere you find your podcast.
01:04:06 --> 01:04:12 <v Amanda>I personally listen to them on Spotify, but sometimes I also listen to them on Apple Podcasts.
01:04:12 --> 01:04:14 <v Amanda>Maybe there's other places as well, who knows?
01:04:14 --> 01:04:16 <v Amanda>I'm sure you guys do.
01:04:16 --> 01:04:16 <v Theresa>Are you drunk?
01:04:17 --> 01:04:18 <v Amanda>I want to drive everywhere.
01:04:18 --> 01:04:19 <v Amanda>I can't be drunk.
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01:04:45 --> 01:04:51 <v Amanda>So, yeah, that's it for us for another week.
01:04:51 --> 01:04:53 <v Kip>This was the 40th episode that we've recorded.
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